
UPDATE: This article includes comments from an interview with CEO Tim Spence.
Banks are still optimistic that deregulation under the Trump administration will help offset some of the recent turbulence from recent tariff policies. But there's a caveat.
"In almost every category, certainly in consumer, we compete with fintech companies, and in commercial increasingly," Spence said. "I think you want to be careful what you wish for, because if we go from a lot of regulation to no regulation, now it's the Wild Wild West."
Rules around payment rails, master accounts and deposit insurance benefit banks, Spence said. He added that expanding access to nonbanks and fintechs can make competition more challenging.
Spence said that he thinks bank deregulation, which he hopes would expand the industry's flexibility to originate more loans, is "really critical" to "reignite private sector growth."
Rules should be tailored, he said, "but not for the pendulum to swing to the other end of the spectrum." That said, Spence added that more competition can help the industry improve, and noted that
The Trump administration has already made moves to pull back on rules and regulations that have held back fintechs in recent years, including approving certain acquisitions and signaling a change in tone on enforcement.
"It's important for all of us to continue to try to get the overheads down in the business. And to be able to make the investments that we've got to continue to make in AI and technology and all of the other things that are so important to the way that we're going to serve customers in the future," Spence said on an analyst call to discuss the bank's first-quarter earnings. "There's no question in my mind that in the future, there are going to be fewer banks than there are today."
The Cincinnati-based bank has been focusing its own investment efforts on remixing its branch network in the Southeast in efforts to nab more low-cost deposits, along with its commercial payments business. Spence said that
As uncertainty weighs on the macroeconomic outlook, Spence said the $213 billion-asset bank can tighten its expense growth, and still deliver the net interest income it had guided for in January — which would be a record for the bank.
"We don't believe that it's credible to think that the capital markets will recover sufficiently to cover up the softness that we're all going to see in the first half of the year," Spence said. "So if fees are down, expenses are going to come down as well."
But Spence told American Banker that certain investments — in areas that are deemed to build long-term value — are nonnegotiable.
Investments in AI and core platforms, which the CEO said drive down overhead, can't be compromised either.
He said that if there's more turmoil, the bank can dial back spending in areas where payoff will be slower. As it is, expenses are slated to increase by some $100 to $150 million this year.
The JPMorgan Chase CEO said Friday that recent turmoil in the bond market highlights the need for more capital and liquidity flexibility.
In the first quarter, the bank posted earnings per share of 71 cents, above consensus analyst estimates of 70 cents. Net interest income of $1.4 billion was up about 3.6% from the previous year, with full-year guidance predicting a 5% to 6% climb between 2024 and 2025.
The initial magnitude of tariff announcements surprised
But while inflation may go up, he said unemployment has been less of a concern in conversations he's having.
The market volatility has also spurred
"His comment was, 'If I do the deal today,' — and they were close — 'I'm either a hero or an idiot. And I don't like decisions where there are binary outcomes,'" Spence said. "So the first thing is, there just has to be some certainty."
Chief Financial Officer Bryan Preston added that
The bank has also been working on a bottom-up review of its commercial portfolio.
"Today, we are focused on what is in front of us as opposed to what is behind," Spence said on the earnings call, noting it's not clear what the final tariff policies, or their effects, will be. "What we can do is to ensure that our business mix is more naturally resilient, run our balance sheet defensively, and retain optionality so that we can react quickly as conditions change."